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Old 8th February 2009, 05:27
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Smile Quick but important question...

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Is anyone starting the external LLB programme offered by the University of London this year?

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Hi all,

Please pardon for asking a rather naive question because I am very new to this. I just registered (year one) and my study materials are arriving next week. Knowing that exams take place every May/June, am I allowed take the exam in May/June 2010 if I start studying now? So, I would have 1 year and 2-3 months to study. The reason is that I want to finish my LLB in 3 years. If I start studying in Sept 2009, wouldn't it take until May/June 2011 before I can take the exam, which will make it 1.5 years per module? Therefore, couldn't the entire LLB take more than 3 years? Thank you all very much in advance and any input is appreciated.

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David

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Hi all,

Please pardon for asking a rather naive question because I am very new to this. I just registered (year one) and my study materials are arriving next week. Knowing that exams take place every May/June, am I allowed take the exam in May/June 2010 if I start studying now? So, I would have 1 year and 2-3 months to study. The reason is that I want to finish my LLB in 3 years. If I start studying in Sept 2009, wouldn't it take until May/June 2011 before I can take the exam, which will make it 1.5 years per module? Therefore, couldn't the entire LLB take more than 3 years? Thank you all very much in advance and any input is appreciated.

Thanks,
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I dont want to be the one to discourage you and tell you what is and is not doable. Look at the stats for the first year Diploma (equal to year 1 of the LLB), and it has a 78% first year failure rate. this is a tough course and doing the exams in three months is likely to be impossible if you plan to pass.

I dont even know if I will be able to revise it all in 8 weeks, the course is heavy. you should be able to sit the exam next year. I have a friend registered for 3 years before doing his first exam, but, as usual, check with the college. Their e-mail address should be on the website and they are very responsive.

(ps> recommended individual study time for one of the modules is 250 hours... actually, the exact words are, to complete the module is under 250 hours would be "Exceptional", according to study materials. you have to do 4 modules, or 1000 hours if you are an "exceptional" student. That's 125 8-hour long work days. And thats unreasonable to think you can slog like that and actually learn all new material).

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If I start studying in Sept 2009, wouldn't it take until May/June 2011 before I can take the exam, which will make it 1.5 years per module? Therefore, couldn't the entire LLB take more than 3 years? Thank you all very much in advance and any input is appreciated.

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????? If you start in Sept 09 you can sit exams in May 10 if you are ready.
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????? If you start in Sept 09 you can sit exams in May 10 if you are ready.
Hi Luke,

Excellent! Thank you so much for your input. Maybe I didn't explain my situation clearly but I wasn't planning on registering in Sept 09 and taking the exam in May 10.

I just registered earlier this month (Feb 2009) and I was planning to take the first exam in May 2010. So, I would have a bit more than one year to study. Does this plan/strategy sound reasonable?

Thank you so much again in advance for any input or comment and I hope I have explained myself clearly this time.

Sincerely,
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Hi David,

My apologies if I didn't read your first post clearly. I think if you hit the ground running now you will be in good stead by May 2010 if you put the work in.

My only advice is to not consider the extra time as a grace to study leisurely. Any review of the University of London External LLB/Diploma pass rates will indicate that the course is tough. If I was in your shoes I would budget to finish the syllabus in the timeframe of a regular academic year if at all possible (9-10 months) and use your grace time to read the "further reading" materials noted in the book.

It is already February and I have begun my revision for my May exams. At the moment the sheer course load for revision alone looks like a daunting task to complete by May 13 (Date of my first exam) and I have just ordered the further reading textbooks in an effort to form more critical arguments.

The University of London stresses that without evidence of so-called "further reading" you will not attain the higher grades (2:1 - 1), so this further reading is crucial. What is in the subject guides and the textbooks alone provided will not suffice, so find a good library, or get comfortable with the online cases library provided...

I personally hate reading from a computer so I went the way of casebooks for 90% of my cases, and the library for further research. Good luck and I'll continue to answer any questions you have which I can help with.

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I have couple pals doing it and they say it's rather tough. Guess everyone is different though and it depends a lot on self-motivation. I've read it is as difficult as Oxbridge but it has a great rep so will be worth the slog
I did 1 year than I quit . In my opinion is not worth it.
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I did 1 year than I quit . In my opinion is not worth it.
It's not worth what exactly, Smartlawyer? A severely negative, vague point there... How is a university of london llb "not worth it". What do you mean by "it", may I ask?

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Well, first of all they are not clear about the textbooks. As you said only doing further reading you can have the chance to get high scores. For example in contract law is not clear which books you have to read. In the study guide the essential reading is mc Kendrick, but then in each chapter are quoted all the other books qualified as essential reading as well. So? Am I supposed to buy it all?.

In addition, you will have a distance learning degree that imply something less than a traditional LL.B program or at least this seems to be. Your title will be released by the external system, not LSE or QMUL but a sort of -not clear at all- parallel system.

I began to study early sept 2007 and passed my exams in 2008. It was quite though especially because I work so didin’t have much time to study. For sure, to being a full time student change a lot.

Finally,I think they system doesn’t help much students and is not so flexible as they pretend to be.
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Well, first of all they are not clear about the textbooks. As you said only doing further reading you can have the chance to get high scores. For example in contract law is not clear which books you have to read. In the study guide the essential reading is mc Kendrick, but then in each chapter are quoted all the other books qualified as essential reading as well. So? Am I supposed to buy it all?.

In addition, you will have a distance learning degree that imply something less than a traditional LL.B program or at least this seems to be. Your title will be released by the external system, not LSE or QMUL but a sort of -not clear at all- parallel system.

I began to study early sept 2007 and passed my exams in 2008. It was quite though especially because I work so didin’t have much time to study. For sure, to being a full time student change a lot.

Finally,I think they system doesn’t help much students and is not so flexible as they pretend to be.
The individual subject guides contain valid bullet points, and the additional "study packs" included cover the majority of the further reading. THe text books included are sufficient to acquire a good passing grade, along with the available online resources.

I do think however, you're right, it's not a feasible part-time program with the work load. Conversely, however, I think your disappointment with your grade has clouded the value you held for the degree.

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